Thursday musings (5-1)
May 1, 2008 @ 10:33 p.m. by Joannaby joanna
Just finished up with my Northwest-Carroll softball gamer. It was a pretty good night for softball, which Northwest winning the first 2-1 in eight innings and then Carroll taking the second game 8-6. That means there’s a three-way tie for the City League title right now between Carroll, Northwest, Heights. All are 12-2 and should win their final doubleheaders next week.
It’s a good way to wrap up the City League with some good games, especially after way too many games that are blowouts. So I didn’t see the box scores for Carroll-Northwest baseball, but I heard they split on Wednesday and that the scores were just ridiculous. Is 20-16 in the first game, a Carroll win, correct? That’s just crazy.
Another question — Is anyone else too through with all the backbiting and rehashing on the Independent softball team post? Or is it just me who sees all the comments that come through?
Saw a comment that someone wrote about how it’s wrong that Southeast guard Adonis Gantt is going to Cowley. That he’s just waiting to see if he passes the ACT so he can go to Georgia Southern. I can see why you would think that, but I talked to Southeast coach Carl Taylor and Cowley coach Steve Eck, who said that Gantt is settled on Cowley. That’s all I can go by.
So what’s on your mind? Fill me in.

May 1st, 2008 at 11:49 pm
If Heights, NW and Carroll are all expected to win their doubleheaders next week causing all 3 teams to have 14-2 city league records.
Then is the city league champion determined by which of these 3 teams has the better overall record at the end of the season?
If that is true, then Maize plays a huge roll in deciding the city league champion because Carroll and NW have double-headers against Maize after NW and Carroll finish up their city league games.
Correct me if I’m wrong on this……………… be as biased as you want! lol
May 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 am
I believe City League championships are decided on city league games. Why on earth would games outside the league decide a league title. All three teams win, you have tri champions.
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:29 am
I don’t think he is waiting to see if he passed his ACT because the results for April’s ACT have been out. I guess he could still have a chance with the ACT in June.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:17 am
Patrick, Opportunity Knocks is right. It’s only CL games that count toward a CL championship. So if all three finish by winning their doubleheaders next week, they will share that league title. What playing Maize would affect is final overall records, which are what postseason seeds are based on.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:21 am
Gantt is going to Cowley because he didn’t pass the ACT. I think it is said the amount of talent on the boys side of the City League that end up going to Junior College because they can’t pass the test. Is there no one in High School guiding these kids. Everyone knows that the higher your GPA in courses like Math, English etc then it lowers the score you need on the ACT to qualify for division 1. I just think that if they had someone helping them in these areas over their High School years then more of these kids will go Division 1 because how many kids that actually qualify and get offers from D1 schools actually choose to go to JUCO. I mean there are a few but not many,
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 am
First of all, there is a mininum requirement ACT for NCAA/ ACT scores, or certain classes taken and passed like Chemistry. Your overall GPA doesn’t matter, the classes you take, do. As far as Joanna’s commet about Independent softball, and are “we” finished, Anyone who has been around softball for the last 10 years, knows about the Mustang group, and how Independent is loaded with those kids/coaches. It is helping them win! And they are within the rules. So until the rules change for softball, like other sports, this will continue in the private schools with money donations. Volleyball clubs are allowed to have only four (I believe) players from the same high school team on their team., for example.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
Wow. I’m smart. Thanks for correcting me on this “opportunity knocks” and joanna. This is why you work for the eagle and why I’m still in high school. lol
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
CM Scott–What is sad is that they are being guided and guided well at school. What I want to know is the role that parents play in the grades issue, and scores. Ultimately coaches, teachers, and staff work with these kids for less than 186 days, and get all the blame. When is the kid accountable for his own doings?
Brown made it, Harper made it, countless others could have. And again we are making the assumption that he is going there because of his grades–unless one poster on here is truely Gantt telling the world his grades, but is too embarassed to do it publicly.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
I think Gantt needs to be accountable for his own doing. He had that opportunity to pass the test and classes. Teachers only have kids for less than 186 days, parents influence for life. When will the parents and child become accountable, and have the “sad” label placed back on them. No wonder there is a teacher shortage.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:34 am
Let me clarify, I totally agree that parents should have the major role in guiding their kids in life. I do not blame the teachers at all. I do believe that if a parent has a child who has the talent to succeed at that high level then it is the parents and the kids responsibility to work with the teachers at school to put their child in the best position to make it to the level they wish to play. I believe it is a parents responsibility to their child to put their child in the best position possible to succeed and to use whatever resources(teachers and coaches) available help in that effort. However some parents are more concerned with performances in the sport than they are with what is going on in the classroom. This is not to say that is totally what happened with Gantt because a child also has to take responsibility, however it does seem to happen a lot. Athletes these days have to realize that it takes grades and ability to play at the higher levels and that they must take the necessary steps to get there while they are in High School and not think about it when they are about to graduate.
May 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I am in total agreement to your clarification.
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Kids go to junior college because they don’t have the grades or they were not good enough to go division I out of high school.
I am amazed at how many kids get letters from division I schools after there freshman and sophomore years in high school and so they think they are going DI. The recruiters fail to mention that they have to have good grades and a good test score to be able to. They think that sports will get them there and they need school.
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:09 pm
….They think that sports will get them there and they DON’T need school.