Bill Snyder visits Southeast, Northwest (updated 1-22)
Jan. 21, 2009 @ 1:28 p.m. by Joannaby joanna
updated 1-22: Sounds like Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin will be in town today to visit Bryce Brown. A Miami assistant coach sat with him at Tuesday’s Andover Central at Rose Hill girls basketball game, too. And I got an e-mail that Pete Carroll was in to see him this week, too.
From Wednesday: Kansas State football coach Bill Snyder made a visit to Southeast on Tuesday because of running back/defensive back Joseph Randle, a junior and two-time All-Metro player. (Thanks to the heads-up from buffs1)
Snyder also visited Northwest and talked to Weston Schartz about running back Demarcus Robinson. (Thanks to the heads-up from Coach EM)
I talked to Gary Guzman and Schartz today about the visit.
Guzman: “He got swarmed by our teachers and administrators. It was an in-service day, so a lot came out of meetings to meet him. We have a lot of Kansas State fans here. I really didn’t get a chance to talk to him.
“He didn’t didn’t ask me anything about Joseph. He didn’t ask any questions. I volunteered some information, that he’s a good kid, good student, that type of thing.
He just just stopped by. Coaches tend to do that at times.
At the last minute, one of his assistant coaches called me and asked if I would be around.
He (Snyder) was very personable with everybody. He took time to talk with everyone, even took some pictures. He was walking down the hallway and people were coming out. It was crazy.
Being who he is and being here in Kansas, it happens to him all the time, I’m sure.”
Other teams that have been through Southeast to recruit Randle include Kansas, Illinois, Arizona, Miami, Louisville. Former K-State coach Ron Prince offered Randle a scholarship, but Illinois was the first to offer him.
“Having a player that might have the opportunity to play Division I, you’ll get some of the bigtime coaches coming through. It’s a nice thing for me, too.”
Weston Schartz: Snyder “took his time and talked, visited with the coaches, visited with our principal. He was nice to be around. I’ve never seen him like that.”
As for offers, Robinson has been offered by Louisville, but Schartz thinks KSU and KU are close to offering.
“I think, in a week, after recruiting season is over, I think he’ll get more (offers).”
Schmakey says:
January 21st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
How embarrassing for SE teachers and admins to act like little girls seeing Miley Cyrus.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Just enough interest to keep feeding the old man’s ego. He does remember the last two year’s of his reign at KSU or has he gone totally senile.
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Once again, a nice little post gets turned into negativity.
I don’t consider it acting like little girls seeing Miley Cyrus. Don’t we all have sports figures that we admire?
My husband would love to meet Steve Spurrier. I have no idea why, but he would.
My parents met Ron Gardenhire and still talk about how nice he was.
There are people that I admire and I would like to meet, but it doesn’t mean that people are giddy or goofy just because of that.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Seriously Joanna? Its one thing to want to meet the man, but for grown adults to swarm the man like he is the second coming of the Beatles. I would say hero worship has gone to the extreme in this country. Now that is the perfect blog topic if you will.
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Seriously, Pete. I doubt that people were lined up 10 deep to meet him, doubt that they were drooling at the sight of him. So they wanted to get out of their inservice and meet him. Why is that so negative?
You really don’t have a person you admire that you would like to meet?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I have met people like Ryne Sandberg and George Brett, but I didn’t “swarm” them either. Didn’t ask them for their autograph, didn’t take pictures, didn’t interrupt their meals with their families or whatever nonsense happens. I treated them like they were ordinary people, shook their hands and moved on. And by the way weren’t these teachers supposed to be working?
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Coach EM says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
He was also at NW yesterday afternoon
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Pete — Seriously, are you questioning whether the teachers lost work time because they said hi or had a picture taken with Bill Snyder? Have you had a break today? I have. Just sat for about five minutes and talked to a friend about nonsense. I’ll probably have another break later today.
Me, I wouldn’t ask for an autograph, either. But if I weren’t a sports reporter, I bet I would. I think it would be cool to have Michael Jordan’s autograph. Does that make me a crazy, too?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I don’t think I used the word crazy, nor would I say that questioning a bunch of adults mobbing a college football coach negative. I think you are being a little sensitive about this. I am just not buying into the hero worship of the man that is all, and it wouldn’t matter if it was Mark Mangino or Bob Stoops or Barack Obama. I just don’t get all gooey when I meet a quasi celebrity. I have a right to my opinion right?
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Pete, of course you have a right to your opinion. I thought we were having dialogue. My bad. I’ll stop.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Its a good dialogue. I thought maybe you were attacking me for my opinion. I apologize for assuming.
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Coach EM says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Aint gonna lie, I got a ball signed, guess I get the award for geek of the week. Will proudly display my quasi celebrity signed ball in my office.
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Pete, I really try not to attack anyone because, as you’ve probably seen on the blog, I call out people for attacking others.
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Coach, I love memorabilia. When I was a kid I used to go to Vikings training camp and get autographs between sessions. That was so cool. Some of those names were famous, some not so much. I still have them, though.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Coach Em,
Are you sure you want to do that or maybe you could sell it on ebay? LOL
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Coach EM says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Not for sell…ever. Got one from Prince (any buyers???) and one from Belotti when he came through. You seriously get to meet coaches like that whom you greatly respect once in a blue moon. And unless you are in the coaching community, it is even fewer and far between. For myself, I was at KSU in the 11 game bowl streak. The ball represents a time in my past that I am immensely proud of, and the opportunity to meet a man I truly respect. Nothing more.
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Coach EM says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Oh yeah, Coach Miller from KU was through today, and really enjoyed hearing his stories about when he was at Miami and coached Ray Lewis, now that was cool. I really enjoy it when coaches come in and share their experience, and take the business side off of football. It really makes coaching even more rewarding.
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Snyder visits Wichita high schools | K-Stated says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
[...] high schools reporter Joanna Chadwick has information on Bill Snyder’s visit to Wichita this week. It’s on the VarsityKansas [...]
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NWBB says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
We were at a hutch juco game a couple weeks ago that Kevin Durrant happened to be at and I guess my son was also a little goofey acting as he got a autograph and also had his picture taken with him. I thought it was pretty cool, and my son thought it was real cool. In fact couldn’t get my camera phone to work and I said just let him leave son he doesn’t have all day to wait on you to get a picture. And Durrant told him it was fine take your time lets get you a picture.
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NWBB says:
January 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Of course my own favorite stuff I have is of Magic Johnson which I also display.
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For Petes sake Pete!!! says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
you do have a nasty attitude. When you’re at work are you not allowed to take a break? Does everything pss you off? Give someone a break.
If Bill came walking down the hall here in chicago, people would leave their desk to say hello. And most people don’t know who he is!
Now if people were ripping off thier bras, then i’d say that would be great, but a little over the top. It doesn’t sound as if that was the deal though… sounds as if Bill was yucking it up with the locals to me.
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Schmakey says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:28 pm
LOL, again, this stuff is just too funny! But state workers shouldn’t abuse break times, that is tax payer dollars. LOL Go ahead Jo, rip it up.
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Coach EM says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:31 pm
State workers, you cant be serious about abusing break times…have you seen people working construction on state money. One to hold the shovel, one to tell the guy how to use it, the next to lift it, and another ot oversee the whole operation…abuse by going to see another state employee, are you serious?
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Old School says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
It’s all about face time, and letting players and coaches know you have respect for their accomplishments. It’s good to see Bill on the trail and in a good mood.
He “took his time and talked, visited with the coaches, visited with our principal. He was nice to be around. I’ve never seen him like that.”
I just hope some of the in-state talent returns to the field in Manhattan (and *ahem* Lawrence for that matter). I can’t believe I just typed that, but I’m tired of these guys leaving.
Geez Pete.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Excuse me for having a differing opinion. Maybe being an educator myself I kind of take in-service a little more serious than those at Wichita Southeast. Maybe I don’t treat a has-been as if he is God. So pile on all you want but I was not making a fool out of myself today.
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Schmakey says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Then why were you posting here at 2:45 pm? Doesn’t school go until 3:10 pm?????
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I was on my break Schmakey and why were you posting? Are you unemployed?
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WC says:
January 21st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
haha if you could keep this little ‘verbal tussle’ going for the entertainment of those who think its extremely funny and has nothing to do with the blog i would appreciate it
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Actually what is the topic of the blog anyway. Bill Snyder showed and talked to a couple of kids and adults made fools out of themselves. I bet Randle (was he even there being an in-service day) and Robinson didn’t fall all over themselves when he showed up.
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GP76 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Bill Snyder is a coaching legend. I work for myself, I am a veterinarian, and I would take some of my work time to tell him how much I admire what he has done and wish him the best of luck in the future. I am glad to see him work the high schools in Kansas. These kids can become revered if they stay in their home state.
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GP76 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Joanna,
Thanks very much for the article. This is the kind of stuff that us purple Kool-Aid drinkers like to see.
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NWBB says:
January 21st, 2009 at 7:23 pm
For Pete’s Sake:
Could you please tell us what school you work for so I can make sure none of my kids accidently end up there!
Like any teachers at an inservice day work all day while they are there. Gimme a break.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I doubt that I would want to teach your kids NWBB. How would you know what I do during an inservice. Most of the time I have to put up with parents who whine and cry, probably like you do because your kid isn’t hacking it. Like I said I am entitled to my opinion so if you want to attack me personally go ahead.
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FBallfn says:
January 21st, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Snyder has earned the attention and should be recruiting Wichita/Kansas hard as he seems to be. The kool-aid drinkers however need to realize the kstate is not a football destination for top players is a landing for 2nd level and small town players that grew up in purple households. I promise you when these kids go to combines/camps etc all over the country KSU is not a place you brag about getting an offer from. In the Big 12 alone you have OU,Neb,the Tex schools and even Mizzo that are much bigger draws for talented football players . I wish it was different and maybe someday it will be (doubtfull) but the reality is Snyder has a uphill job and will have to build his team with overachievers not top 100 players.
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Willis Wildcat says:
January 21st, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Exactly FBallfn. Look if my memory serves me correctly in those years K-State was at its best when Snyder didn’t land the top recruits (I think the most highly touted recruit was Ell Roberson). He went out and got the kids he could build up, the juco players, etc. He has to recruit the Browns, Randles and Robinsons just in hopes that they may buy his pitch, but it is unlikely. He is going to have to really be creative in rebuilding this time around because their is more competition in the Big 12 than in the Big 8. I hope he does it.
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Coach EM says:
January 21st, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Hey Pete, I am sure that you more than paid attention to your cultural proficiency training and understanding your own biases and not projecting them upon others.
Ooops, too late, I guess you didnt pay attention as well as you pride yourself.
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Kev from KSU says:
January 21st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Pete! what is your problem? Im glad Snyder is out, being an ambassador for KSU. Keep all of Kansas’ best and brightest at home! Pete – you can move!
Joana – great post, way to scoop Jmart!
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Coach exactly what are my biases? Do you know what the word means? Look it up in Webster’s dictionary if you can find the library. Kev from KSU —I guess if all those people who are not K-State fans move from the state than the IQ percentage would drop into the negative range. The last time I checked living in the state didn’t require one to be a Wildcat fan.
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Joanna says:
January 21st, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Is today mad Wednesday? My goodness everyone is touchy.
Debate OK. Touchiness not.
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SEfan1 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Pete,
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
SEfan1:
Wildcat got your tongue?
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SEfan1 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Pete, i find it very immature of a teacher like yourself, to insult other teachers because they wanted to meet a hero. They went out and talked to the guy. Your right Joseph was not there, but we don’t know if Snyder knew that. You might do things a little bit different than other teachers, but nobody likes to be in meetings all day. It was a way for the staff to enjoy the day a little bit better. And its not like they spent the entire workday with him. Your entitled to your own opinion, but it’s a little ridiculous that you’re chastizing others because you work without any fun. That’s just my opinion.
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SEfan1 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Do you not have anything to do? you weren’t working all day i know that, because you’ve been on the computer constantly, and dont use that lame excuse that it was your break. if you were a “true” teacher you would be working during your break, right?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Did you just call Snyder a hero. Really? Who did he save? If he didn’t know Randall was not there than he wasted taxpayer dollars because I am sure he was using a state car. In these tough economic times where every dollar is needed for education I kind of find that about as appalling as you calling a football coach a hero. Sorry if your day is so monotonous that it was little better meeting a “hero”. WIth teachers like you I find it kind of embarrassing to call myself one as well. Now that was immature
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Working hard like you were SEfan1?
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SEfan1 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
A person noted for special achievement in a particular field is also considered a hero. So your saying Bill Snyder didnt achieve anything at K-State? If so your an idiot. Have you never seen coaches change a person’s life? because it happens all the time, they’ve actually made movies about it (i.e. Remember the Titans, Radio, Coach Carter, etc.) so don’t tell me football coaches can’t be heroes. I also find it embarrassing to call you a teacher and one more thing, Who said i was a teacher?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 21st, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Whose life did he change? He did turn the most pathetic college football program in the country into a winner, but his time has passed. That doesn’t make him a hero in my book. I guess if you aren’t a teacher than you must be the janitor. If calling me an idiot makes you feel better go for it, but you just prove what kind of person you really are. K-State fans are all the same. By the way, ask Bob and Mike Stoops, Brent Venables and many of his former assistant coaches what kind of hero he was when he worked them like dogs and they never saw their families.
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CLFAN says:
January 21st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
For Pete’s Sake, I’ll back SEfan1’s opinion of you and say that you are an idiot. Criticizing the Southeast faculty for taking some time off of their inservice meetings meet Bill Snyder is ridiculous. You may be having hard time with the economy yourself, but don’t bring the bad attitude to this blog and lash it out the posters and blog entries.
I’m also guessing you’ve never had a hero figure in your life either. Mine is my father and if you want to argue that I would be more than happy to argue back.
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hotgirl101 says:
January 21st, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Snyder is planning on stopping by Andover next week. Andover has got some real D1 athlets in there sophmore and junior classes.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:10 am
A father is a hero, a washed up football coach is not. I guess its a free world CLFan so I can bring whatever I want to the blog. Call me names all you want, it just proves your childish. I thought it was a little ridiculous that they made it seem like he was mobbed by a bunch of grown-ups. If you are mobbing somebody other than the President of the United States or a really important person than that is kind of pathetic in my opinion, but then again your k-state fans. No wonder the top football players bolt the state. So which one of you is going to call me an idiot this time?
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 am
For Pete’s Sake — you seem to be very arrogant. You criticize others for calling you an idiot but then turn around and call Bill Snyder a hasbeen. You are funny. You complain about whining and crying parents-nobody is holding a gun to your head to force you to be an educator. If you don’t care for it-quit. I doubt if any students or whining parents would be upset!! Also I don’t think anyone forced those coaches to work for Snyder-THEY CHOSE TO DO IT RIGHT? You clearly think you are above everyone else in the world. What right do you have to judge anyone else? People with attitudes like yours is why so many students dislike school. When is the last time a former student of yours called and thanked you for anything you did for them. I am willing to bet Bill Snyder gets calls weekly for ex-players and coaches. Look in the mirror and ask yourself-Why am I so lonely? I am looking forward to your snappy response!!
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Joanna says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 am
I think I’m going to hurl.
No lie. Everyone has people they admire. Not all of them have saved someone’s life.
Anyone else want to talk about recruiting? Sports? Anything? I know sports don’t save lives like doctoring does, but it’s something I really enjoy.
Can we get back to the issue about Snyder being in town and check out two of the city’s top athletes?
Please? Pretty please?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:20 am
How do you know I carry this attitude over towards the students. Maybe its jerks like you that make me pause and take you to task for stupid stuff. I guess you have the right to judge me huh? Talk about arrogant? I have read your remarks before on here Big B and your always quick to judge somebody. Talk about pathetic. Check Bill Snyder’s record the last two years of his previous coaching tenure and what does that tell you Mr. Know it All. How is that for a snappy response.
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 am
Pete’s Sake-whats the difference in people calling you an idiot and you making the statement “but then again your k-state fans”. Isn’t that comment just a veiled putdown to all K-state fans. At least calling you an idiot they were only referring to YOU and not all educators!!! You were saying ALL K-state fans are pathetic!!
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 am
Okay Joanna here is a question for the topic at hand. Why would any of the top local athletes go to a school with an aging coach who clearly was not at the top of his game at the end of his last tenure. K-State is not Penn State or Florida State who both have aging coaches, but have history and prestige on their side.
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
WOW!! Pete you really know how to hurt a guy. LMAO!! You get mad way too easily!! A leopard can’t change its spots, so I do know that you take this venom into your classroom. I really do get a chuckle from you getting mad at being called names and then you call me a jerk and pathetic. What have I EVER said on here to judge someone. Be specific. I think you might have me confused with the guy who justs go by B, not Big B!!! I doubt if the coaches Snyder has got to join his staff would be coming if they thought he was washed up!!
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 am
I guess you know that you got me mad. Psychic now? Time will tell at KSU. Keep drinking whatever extra your putting into your purple kool-aide. Like I said he was washed up the last time around, and those leopards don’t change their spots or whatever overused cliche you want to call it. Maybe the wildkitties can be better than Colorado or Iowa State next year.
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 am
Petey-You don’t have to be psychic to read a post and realize that someone is mad or just maybe psychotic. I’m not sure which!! Did Bill Snyder steel your gitlfriend in grade school or possibly you lost a lot of money betting for K-state to win those last couple years Snyder was there. You have so much hatred in your heart. Let it go-you will feel much better and live longer!!!
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 am
Petey-I must have missed class the day we learned to spell steal and girlfriend. Thought I’d beat you to the correction!!
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 am
I predict Snyder will have K-state back to the top third of Big 12 within 3 years!!! And I am NOT a K-state alum or even a big fan. Just know good coaches when I see them
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 am
You kind of crack me up Big B. I think when Bill Snyder was young enough to go to school they didn’t even have books evented yet. Facts are facts and his teams stunk in those last few years, why do you think that is? check back next year at this time and he may have already retired again. Oh I wish I could take your bait….but its not hatred, just pity for people like you that have their hopes hanging on poor Willie Wildcats whiskers.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 am
Now look who is psychotic, Wow! You mean he is going to be ahead of OU, Texas, OSU, Nebraska, Texas Tech, KU and Oklahoma State. He might be ahead of the top third in the state of Kansas, but I don’t know…KU, Pitt State, and Emporia State will probably be pretty salty. Send me your real name I would love to wager with you on that one.
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:13 am
Petey-I knew you lost money gambling!! All they have to do for top third is finish 2nd in big 12 NORTH. Lat time I checked OU, Texas, Texas Tech, plus those 2 schools OSU and Oklahoma State (ha) were in the south. They will compete with KU, MU, Nebraska for one of top 2 spots in Big 12 North. Read all my post-I told you I am not someone who hangs their hopes on K-State. And I certainly don’t need or want your pity. You need to keep it all for yourself. What am I trying to bait you into?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:02 am
Big B you are so smart. They still can’t compete with an upsurging Nebraska, Missouri, KU, or even Colorado. I know you go by the beat to your own drum (I beat you to that cliche), but this isn’t 1998 when Snyder was at the top of his game. He can throw his tantrums about the butter not being whipped all he wants but the fact remains the league is tougher. But I am sure he will try to play as many 1-AA schools as he can so his record isn’t totally atrocious. As for knowing a good coach when you see one, you wouldn’t know a good coach if he slapped you upside the head or in the case of Hutchinson, hist you with a gatorade bottle. Sorry hutch people. So how are you going to respond now Lee Corso?
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Matt says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
Pete, why are you baggin on old people. I’m one of those who think we should listen to the older people, respectfully. Also why not have a hero, in this day and age, its nice to have some positives out there no matter how insignificant they may seem to others. For istance, if you had a teenage daughter wouldn’t you much rather she cut out paper dolls and watched Miley Cyrus vs doing what is popular among the young today.As far as Snyder goes I wish him well and also hope he recruits some city league kids. The city league is full of talent.
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varsity1 says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 am
What’s been lost in this debate is the fact that Randle and Robinson had stellar seasons in 08. I believe that was the intent. Southeast and Northwest aren’t the first or last schools Snyder or any coach has visited.
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GP76 says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
I hope Pete doesn’t have a computer at work.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
He is going to need all the Randle’s and Robinson’s he can get. But the fact remains, was Bill Snyder coming back to KSU the best thing. After the great Big XII title win something happened and he was not the same coach. The Big XII is not the same conference when he left. Add to that the state that Ron Prince has left the program and its a chore better left to someone who is almost 70, especially a person who is legendary for his 22 hour work days. Its just not humanly possible. If you take your purple blinders off and ask yourself is this the best long-term answer for my team and if you were honest with yourself you would say no. The probability of success is not great, use John Robinson’s second stint at USC as a guide.
As for heroes, I just don’t consider him to be one, if others do that is great. Everyone needs heroes, but I kind of agree with Charles Barkley (I can’t believe I am) heroes need to be your parents not athletes or in this case a coach. Someone mentioned coaches as heroes and the movies that inspired, absolutely those men were inspiring and coaches can inspire and if Bill Snyder does that for you more power to ya. I will just chuckle when you people act like little kids when he comes to your school.
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Matfield says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 am
For Pete’s sake – where do you get off coming on here and ridiculing people for not being as righteous or anal as you, then complain when people speak in less than flattering terms of what they think of you and your spoil sport point of view. Personally, I’ve never bothered a celebrity in my life for an autograph, photo or even a hand shake. That’s my style (or lack thereof) but I hardly consider it virtuous while you seem to think it is. You started out, not by stating what you think, but instead what you think of people who don’t behave exactly like you. Before you post again, you really need to learn the difference.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:23 am
Matfield:
Yet you do the same thing.
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
for petes sake man, SHUT UP AND LEAVE…you’re making an anonymous fool out of yourself!
did you forget breakfast? did u get your ass kicked? is everything ok?
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 am
and i wouldnt quite go with “has been” ……
the coach that is responsible for the best program turn-around in college football history deserves a little more respect than that! even if he did leave the program on a downslide.
i mean really, would you call hall of fame players (who no longer have it) “has been’s”
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:53 am
fascism at its best…if you have a differing opinion…you are just supposed to shur up and leave. I love what America has become. That guy is exactly the type of person why people hate America. Now think of something genius like no it isn’t your the reason people hate America. I have a differing opinion, it doesn’t mean that i forgot breakfast or got my butt kicked (profanity isn’t really necessary is it?).
I actually tried to put something worthwhile on here about K-State and heroes. Obviously some of you can’t read or maybe its just something that hit a nerve. While Joanna hates the childish back and forth, I am sure the hits the site is taking alleviates some of the mind-numbing pain. So keep your personal attacks coming. Call me anal, righteous, hateful, idiot, or whatever creative thing you can come up with. But know that when you call me names because I simply don’t agree with you it turns it around on you.
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Reattaman says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
Just read all the threads in this post. All I could summize is that legendary head coach Bill Snyder was in town to check out local athletes and that For Pete’s Sake is a typical jealous and uneducated beaker. I’m just guessing that he’d proabably p1ss his pants if he met Snyder in person.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 am
He wouldn’t be known as a has-been if he stayed retired and protected his great legacy. Now he will-inevitably tarnish that well-deserved reputation. Don’t you think Michael Jordan as a Washington Wizard was a has been? Wasn’t it painful to watch? What are the expectations in Manhattan? To be in the top third of the Big XII like Big B seems to think they will be in 3 years. Don’t you people want to win Big XII championships, maybe even compete for an occasional national title. Don’t you think the hire was short sighted? Your right he deserves respect, but the fact is he was not good at the end of the first go-around.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:02 am
Sorry Reattaman Penn State undergrad, Fort Hays M.A., Oklahoma State PhD. Maybe I might if I met Joe Paterno. LOL. But even if JoePa came to my school I doubt that I would run out and get my picture taken with him.
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Kev from KSU says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Pete – quite funny you ask “whose life did Snyder change”, then you talk about Stoops brothers. Id say he changed their lives, and I think they’d agree. Yes they worked hard under him, now they make millions. Kind of like slaving for a PhD, only making more money in the end. Could also name some other folks like Jordy Nelson (who he talked into being a WR), Mark Mangino, Darren Sproules. He also works with Kansas Mentors, changing lives.
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pete is an idiot says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
So who is your team Pete? You sound so sure that Snyder is going to fail. Have you seen the coaches he has hired. Utah was pretty dang good this year and guess where that school’s offensive coordinator ended up? I am sure he left an undefeated Utah team to come to K-State because Snyder is washed up. You sound a bit scared that Snyder is going to win again. Are you a chickenhawk, if so, you should be concerned. You run your mouth like a child. I hope you are not one of children’s teachers. As for your concern over the SE teachers wanting to meet coach Snyder, maybe they were excited to meet a man that has spent endless hours on the Kansas mentoring program, that helps kids that need it. Why don’t you hammer him for that? You are pathetic, so shower, you smell.
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
our differing opinions is not why i called you an idiot.
i’m as open minded as they come.
the reason why i call you an idiot, you idiot, is because you took the time to undermind the SE employees for greeting a legendary figure in our state, during an inservice. (and lets
do you know what inservices consist of. i do. if you do, i’d like for you to enlighten me!
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
oh and sorry for saying ASS, maybe i should refrain from that, i forgot about the 3rd and 4th graders that keep up with their weekly blogging!
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pete is an idiot says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
You are a Penn State grad and you are hammering older coaches? Hello pot, I am the kettle,
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 am
pete is an idiot : you just made me laugh!
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 am
See what Mark Mangino has to say about the man after he left to join Stoops at OU. He is your hero great…but can he coach anymore? Will he be able to get Randle, Robinson, Brown, or Bell to Manhattan eh I doubt it and if he does I will admit I am wrong.
Kev is he a hero for touching the lives of Darren Sproles or is he a hero for turning around K-State and winning ball games? I never said he wasn’t a good man, but did the people glad-hand him yesterday for touching kids lives or winning ball games.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
Wow the kids must be out of school today. The immaturity is running rampant. K-State grads all of you? This is great, I can’t believe someone can smell me through the computer. LOL. The name-calling while a little uncreative cracks me up. I stand by my statement earlier K-State fans are pathetic, but I will add to it they are also delusional. You guys get all riled up by one guy thinking your coach is a has-been.
By the way JoePa has learned to delegate his responsibilities to his assistants, and that is why he is still around and only lost one game this year. It will be interesting to see if the control freak that Snyder is will do that. Whipped butter or butter pats anyone?
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
hey pete: you can borrow my screen name for the rest of the day!
i chose this screen name for the irony of being on a blog site and often when anonymous, people like to intentionally be “that guy” adn stir things up…
i dont know if it is your intention or not, but for petes sake, you are really THAT GUY…lol
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
If everybody agreed it would be boring right that guy. Heaven forbid if you arent a Bill Snyder or K-State fan in the state of Kansas. Its like spitting on the Washington Monument or something. If I am totally wrong they wouldn’t be so pissed.
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LaneTech81 says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
Pete, I don’t think it’s about having a different opinion in Kansas – it’s how you relate to people in your difference. But your PhD capacity should aid you in showing that the pen is mightier than the sword.
P.S. Penn State lost twice – second one wasn’t pretty
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 11:04 am
you’re right, if everyone agreed, things would be boring.
but seeing that you are on a sports blog, im assuming you’re a sports fan. correct?
noone is telling you to be a snyder fan. but it is a sports fans obligation to accept and appreciate the magnitude of the name and of his achievements. whether he is making an untimely return or not. Michael Jordan is still Michael Jordan, even after his wizards episode.
you’ve got me nailed tho. i am a huge kstate fan(not a grad)
i dont know how i feel about the return he is making but like someone mentioned before, you are saying these things about the program before he’s even coached a game. the “has been” has taken some strides!
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pete is an idiot says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Pete-
Don’t you have a class to teach or are you sitting in the class spewing your crap on your keyboard? IF you are in class, teach something, make a difference in a one of your students lives. MY tax dollars are being wasted on YOUR play on this site. That pisses me off. Before you hammer me about me being on this computer during work hours, I work second shift hours.
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respectksfb says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
One important reality that student athletes and families must face during the recruiting process is that receiving a few letters from college coaches or a one time school visit does not constitute serious recruitment. While finding a few letters in the mailbox, a school visit, and email inbox might indicate a good start to the process, it certainly does not mean a scholarship is inevitable.
Once a college coach has developed a massive list of potential student athletes who might be a good fit for their program, it comes time to contact the student athletes. Even though college coaches are always restricted by their recruiting budgets, they usually begin their process by contacting thousands of student athletes. Of course that number will vary depending on the sport and amount of money a coach has available, but either way it is almost always surprisingly high.
One of the Unfortunate results that we see that kids are mislead or misread what is happening and think a offer is coming in the future. It’s a big business period.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I teach at a private college now so your tax dollars arent wasted and I don’t have a class today so you make a fool out of yourself once again.
That Guy your right I am just projecting into the future and going off the final two years of his coaching reign. The Big XII is a lot different now then 3 years ago. Mizzou and KU are much better, Colorado is down but that was due to injuries last year should be better next. Pelini looks like he is righting the ship at Nebraska and the South division is better than ever. I think he is fighting an uphill battle. I love the OC hire though…but I think he is a head coaching candidate in the very near future and won’t be around long. If Snyder can sign a couple of in-state studs that would be great for KSU, if he just reverses the damage Ron Prince did than he has done the second greatest coaching job in a century. I agree with Barry Switzer, Bill Snyder is the Coach of the 20th Century, but it doesn’t change my opinion he is washed up and the KSU administration would have done better to look elsewhere.
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Kev from KSU says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Funny thing is – Pete started this whole thread making fun of people at SE who admire Snyder, called Snyder “senile” …now that people are calling him the DBag that he is, he cries don’t call names, don’t disrespect me cause we disagree.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Aren’t you kind of immature? You can call me names, I don’t think I said you couldn’t, just come up with something original KEVY. I know you must have picked up something clever in all the hours you spent in Aggieville right? On my part, it was probably over the top to call him senile but lets wait and see if he meets your expectations and how many of you will be calling for his head if he doesn’t get the job done.
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Kev from KSU says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Pete, are you on Adm. leave from Wichita Technical Institute? Sorry, I can’t come up with a term that describes you better than DBag.
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BballFan says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Joanna…I’m a little wary of saying this now after 95 or so threads about Snyder…but Coach Miller from KU on his way to Wichita also stopped in at Circle High School to see Jordan Phillips.
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jthutch says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Pete-
The bill snyder hire is not a long term solution and you are right that Ludwig (OC) will be in line for a head coaching job in a few years. My thought and this is just my feeling he maybe the next headcoach at KSU. Snyder is here to patch the program and right the ship (more cliche’s).
I agree with you that it is kind of silly for grown men and women to swarm for photo’s and autograph’s that is something those people like so why do you need to put down something that they enjoy?
I am a KSU grad and have no dilusion that KSU will be winning anything but with the state of our University’s president and Athletic department I think Snyder was the best choice. He will bring stability and I will promise you this we will be able to tackle next year.
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Hovpen says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I would think coach Snyder would be more interested in Jordan Phillips although he is going to be looked at in both sports.
I’m impressed Joanna, almost 100 posts of bickering back and forth and nobody has taken a shot at me or the Mustangs yet. LOL.
Sorry guys, got to run, IT’S JANUARY JAM TIME.
where’s the peanut butter?
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Clever Kev…are you now labeling me a racist? If their is a “coach in waiting” it might be a good move, but knowing KSU’s administration after the Frank Martin hire just to have Beasley for one year I don’t know if they think that far ahead.
Food for thought K-state fans: check out ESPN’s college football prestige rankings, your only 76 out of 119 D-1 schools, the lowest ranked school in the Big XII. Ouch.
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I have good feelings about the UTAH o-coordinator….you’re right he is gonna be in line for a head coaching job soon. Once K-state takes the band-aid(snyder) off of the wound then we bump up the o-coordinator….
sounds like a good plan to me..but hey im just a blogger!
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
and hey..we’ve been at the bottom before…i’m ok with it. Im not satisfied, but what is me being pissed off about how awful we are gonna do for me?
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spauly says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I was just wondering where you thought they would be ranked. After all, they were the team with the most losses in Division 1 history until recently. It was only 20 years ago that they were called Futility U. To even be having this conversation shows how far they have come. I don’t understand why you have gone on this tirade to begin with. If Snyder is beyond his time, as you claim, then why does it matter to you? Do you really want to see K-State succeed and you were disappointed by this hire? You should be cheering that they hired someone who will doom them to fail. Then, you can support your team and leave all the K-State fans to moan and groan about the administration’s ineptitude. I know if KU hired someone that was sure to fail, I wouldn’t waste 2 minutes trying to convince them it was a bad move because I would hope their folliness would lead to K-State’s success.
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RikRok says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Where can I get For Pete Sake’s autograph?
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that guy says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
lol
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
If i come to your school are you going to mob me for my autograph…wait it might be a lynching. If K-State is bad yeah it may help another team’s record but not the strength of schedule right. Some teams try to play for national championships and the messed up system counts strength of schedule.
Some teams set high goals I guess K-State and their fans don’t
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spauly says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Wins matter more than strength of schedule. I don’t remember ever seeing a team with more than 2 losses winning the National Championship. So, as long as you win your games, and belong to a BCS conference, then strength of schedule does not really matter.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Wins are primary of course but ask Texas if strength of schedule doesn’t matter because they didn’t go to the Big XII title game as OU had a better strength of schedule than UT. OU played for the national title Texas did not. Do your research next time.
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spauly says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
That is true, but that has more to do with non-conference scheduling than it did conference scheduling which you are inferring when saying some people care about who they play. The only difference in Big XII opponents that Texas and Oklahoma had was that one played Colorado and the other Nebraska. So, I don’t think the Big XII schedule played much of a decision on which of those teams had a better Strength of Schedule. I think it had more to do with the fact that OU had wins over two Top 20 teams out of conference while Texas had zero.
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CLFAN says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
For Pete’s Sake, I’m a KU fan and will be attending there in fall of 2009. Don’t be quick to jump to conclusions. I’m just very respectful to a man who set his life towards building something special where no one thought it was able to be done.
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Big B says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Petey-I’m baaack. You are really funny. You criticize people for predicting K-State will return to competitiveness under Snyder but you are doing the same thing by saying they won’t. He did have a couple of bad years at the end. SO WHAT!!! How many good years did he have. Just a few years ago you were probably calling for Paterno to step aside cause he was too old. Is Paterno too old? I am truly happy that you post on here because humor and laughter is great for ones health and you really make me laugh with your greater and smarter than everyone attitude!! As much as you post on here you must not have many people in your life. Its easy to see why!!!!
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GoddardCat says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Wow Pete, you have this wonderful PSU/FHSU/OSU education and the best you can do is teach at Newman or Friends in a crap town like Wichita? But keep posting, every word is a further affirmation of your shallow intellect.
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jtarkman says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Pete, you might want to check out that espn article again because as of 98 k-state is top-25. also, while snyder did have a let-down after 03 and only won four games in 04, he won five in 05 and prince rode a dearth of synders players to a 7-6 finish and a bowl berth. you may want to do some real homework next time.
Also, if you don’t like k-state so much then why did you read this article in the first place? or even take the time to post so many times?
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God says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
For Petes Sake…
this is God, please go back to work, i’ve been watching you and can honestly say that you can not educate a single person while constantly on the internet. You post more than the man down under for Christ sake.
Many years ago, i decided to quit meddling in human affairs and just let them find their own damn way. That was just around 1991, when the internet was invented….by some kid in Norway.. er Austria, i don’t remember exactly. Anyway, he’s not going to heaven.
Its true…. dads are hero’s. But please stop defining hero to everyone else. Your narrow mindedness has no place in Kansas. Wait! did i just say that? Actually narrowmindedness and Kansas are quite synonymous.
Anyway, as God… i will reserve a special place for Bill Snyder in the purple room. He happens to be a hero to quite a few people in Kansas. While not your hero, i wish you would stop calling him washed up and crazy. He could just possibly engineer the second greatest turnaround in college football history… and until he’s gone, i wish you”d just get off his back.
don’t make me send my other son back to earth Pete. You’d better play nice, because you never know who you might be insulting.
ps, i’m glad my son J didn’t have your ancestor Peter as a teacher… from what i know that guy did a lot of preaching and very little teaching.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Its good people are now committing blasphemy. And I don’t teach at Friend or Newman and your calling Wichita a crap town when you live in Goddard. Wow. Its nice Big B comments on my personal life when all he has is this blog and internet porn. Guys go out and watch some high school basketball like I did tonight. Take off your purple pjs, log off the Jenna Jameson sites and quit hanging on my every word. Spauly I was just contradicting you when you said strength schedule doesn’t matter because it does out of conference and in conference. Its easy to see why K-State is the laughing stock of the Big XII.
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GP76 says:
January 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I quit reading this blog this morning when I went to work. It took me 30 minutes to catch up. I have come to the conclusion that there is no hope of getting through to Pete. His irrational rambling sounds a lot like my 15 year old son. I have learned not to argue with a 15 year old. Tell them what you want them to do and then don’t answer them when they argue about it. They will get the message real quick and do what is ask of them. Pete, please put it to rest you have not impressed anyone except other 15 year olds. Go ahead and argue with me I am not listening.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 am
You must have felt the need to comment GP76. K-State fans seem to ignore the facts. His final two years were horrible, so much so as one of the posts pointed out that even Ron Prince took those exact players to a bowl game. WHile trying to defend the legend he ended up making my point exactly. Most schools that want to win know its better to look into future rather than the past. THe game passed him by. He will win this year because he has a lot of home games, UMass a 1-AA school and two TBAs which knowing Snyders history he will schedule the University of the Blind Sisters of the Poor.
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God says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
Pete, go to hell!
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
Isn’t that the same as watching k-state football
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that guy says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
i’m baaaaaaackk
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Are you Bill Snyder that guy. are you the real that guy or blue that guy
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that guy says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
im the real that guy..and bill snyder that guy..we had a nice back and forth yesterday! there is some other guy out there who thinks he is the guy
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
You should find a way to register the name that guy. The other that guy never offers much, I am thinking he is really Big B’s alter ego.
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that guy says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
it bothers me..because when “that other guy” says stupid stuff it makes this “that guy” look bad…its a shame…
JOANNA:
can i purchase rights to the blog name ” that guy “
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 am
your saving grace is that other guyd name is in blue. Does anybody have any ideas who the TBA games are going to be with on K-States schedule. I saw this morning OU is playing BYU, Idaho State, Tulsa, and Miami FL next year. That is a decent schedule.
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that guy says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
thats a really good schedule for OU…i still dont know who the TBA’s are..i sent my buddy who works in the athletic dept. @ KSU a text message..i’ll let u know if i hear back!
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Derby Shawker Fan says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Wow! This has to have the record for the all time longest blog thread!
Guys, I’m kinda getting the vibe that Petey is a troll. So if you ignore him he will go away!
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Big B says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Petey-thanks for the humor. I think the comedy club here in Wichita is looking for an opening act. From this point forward I will not answer anything you post. Please leave me out of your posts. If you can’t do that at least be a man and make arrangements to talk to me in person. I would love to be standing in front of you when you make the personal comments to me. Lets see how cocky you are in person!!!!
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Thanks for new insult Derby Shawker. Big B your the one that made it personal by trying to say i was lonely pal. Now look who is pissed off huh pal.
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LaneTech81 says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Pete, you seem to be degenerating from your PhD pedigree – let’s try to use more wit instead of the Red Light district analogies.
I know God can forgive you too.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Will do LaneTech, but I doubt that Bill Snyder will ever forgive me. When you wallow with the classless sometimes you say classless things.
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ksu1982 says:
January 25th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Summary:
K-state fans happy Snyder is back and enjoy seeing him around.
Pete thinks snyder is old and can’t coach anymore.
You say for certain that the last 2 years that snyder was coaching is how things will be this time…maybe it will maybe it won’t. You don’t know I don’t know, but no one can control that so why not root for him to suceed. You say he will tarnish is reputation, well my guess is Snyder couldn’t give a crap about his football reputation. The only people that care about that are the fans.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 25th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
If you want to accept mediocrity, I am more than happy for you. While most teams strive for championships, K-State is happy for the occasional Alamo Bowl. I will wrap this up and tie it in to the original story about Randle and Robinson being visited by Snyder. Scouts.com and Foxsports.com did a story about who the perennial winning schools are and how they are also the best schools at recruiting. Their is a reason why they are perennial winners, they recruit the top athletes like Randle and Robinson. Snyder scored a couple of great recruits like Sproles and Roberson, often he turned the average recruit into a very good player, and he won his fair share of his ball games. But, with the Big XII changing like it has in the past several years, I will ask can Bill Snyder compete. I say no, many of you seem to disagree, or at least I think you do when you quit the name calling. Time will tell if Snyder coming back is a good idea.
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stephen says:
January 26th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
lol… just stopped by to read the article. After reading every post… i know who Pete Sake is. Good Lord, you’re a dufas. Petesake you need a friend.
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For Pete's Sake says:
January 26th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
And yet another name called. Do you people have anything to actually add outside of name calling. Is this the state of the education in this state. Pathetic. What do you expect from k-state fans. Stephen I am actually surprised you could read at all. And by the way it is dufus not dufas, moron.
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stephen says:
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
oh thanks…sorry dufus.
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Jon says:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Is is just of another example of Beakers crying because they don’t have a legend on their sidleine.
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Julien Pacheco says:
March 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Kyle, you put up so many good posts. I\’m in love with you now. Man love.
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