Friday’s games (10-16) updated
Oct. 17, 2009 @ 1:55 a.m. by Joannaby joanna
What a night, what a night. Three of the state’s top games were in the Wichita area, and they did not disappoint. Can you ask for anything better? How about — we’ll probably see repeats of these games come semifinal play.
Let’s get the recap started.
I was at Buhler at Andale, and I can tell you that this game was not what I expected in the first half. But it was great all the way around.
Buhler’s Jorden Oden was “held” to 160 rushing yards, and he’s the stud I thought he was. There was a blackout — somehow the stadium lights got turned off, right after an Andale touchdown, a 38-yard interception return by Craig Simon, and it was pitch black. Except for the press box lights. It was freaky, to be sure.
The first half was a defensive battle. Buhler committed four turnovers — a fumble and Jake Reffner was intercepted three times. Andale turned two interceptions into points for the 13-0 lead.
The second half, wow, what a difference. Eight scoring plays, folks. It was back and forth — Andale coach Gary O’Hair said that his neck started to hurt because he was looking up and down the field constantly.
Reffner had a solid second half and finished with 104 passing yards. Andale’s Jake Hattabaugh had 133 rushing yards. I really like this kid. His legs were constantly churning and he was picking up yards after being hit. Fun to watch, let me tell you. I’ll add video of him in the morning.
Buhler scored twice in the final 2 minutes of the game — meaningless points, but they were important for the Crusaders to show that they’ve got the passing game to go with the running game. Those turnovers were way too costly, though.
Saw a strange play tonight — Buhler kicked an onside kick in the final 1:15, the ball bounced right up to Andale’s Allen Trent, who raced into the end zone for a 50-yard score. Crazy play.
OK, moving on. Hutchinson and McPherson was closer than I expected. At least for most of the game, as Hutch turned it into a blowout. By the way, as if we didn’t know, Josh Smith is a major stud. Yeah. He is.
Conway Springs and Garden Plain was a tightly contested game that finished a 6-point victory for Conway. Tough, tough game — as we all expected. This is the only one of the three that I picked wrong. But I have gone on the record that I thought it could go either way. Congrats to Conway.
In other action, Derby beat Southeast. Heights got back on the winning side of things with a 26-point victory over East. South beat North — will this be the year that the Titans get back to the playoffs? Will it? I thought it was last year, then they lost to Campus in the second week of districts. A win this coming week and it’s a given.
Northwest continues to win, as does Carroll (in a Thursday night game). Kapaun whooped up on Ark City (71-14!), and Newton edged Winfield by 3.
Augusta got a win! Ending a 17-game losing streak. Congrats to them with the win over Circle.
Rose Hill beat W. Trinity and Andover Central definitely seems to be back on track with a good, big win over Mulvane.
Hutchinson Trinity continues smack around its opponents, and Sedgwick beat Halstead.
Collegiate handled Douglass and should ease into the playoffs — where the Spartans will meet Garden Plain. Madison and Caldwell continue to roll. Goessel didn’t play St. John’s Military because of an H1N1 outbreak at the military school.
So where were you? What caught your eye? Any impressive performances? Crazy calls? Anything?
Let’s hear about it.
cardfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:12 am
GO CARDS!!!! All the hype Of GP big and and better than Conway gets old. GP done for the year. Kinda like last year huh?
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OWLS says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:20 am
ok cardfan,
go to catch it kansas and read and watch the video. it clearly shows that braden eck got into the endzone before half.
on the fourth play when brill had that sweep for the TD, on kake it clearly shows a block in the back.
until conway can win without relying on a trick offense and hopeing the defense makes a mistake, then just shut your mouth.
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Tale-Gator says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Good game but conway seemed to be in control most of the game second half was close until Davis intercepted 4th Quarter pass. BTW my pic was conway, thank you, thank you very much
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cardfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:25 am
A loss is always hard to take, OWL we been there done that.
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OWLS says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:27 am
yes it is hard to take, but its always worse when u know you just got screwed over.
if you havent watched those video clips, please do and you’ll know what i mean.
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cardfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:42 am
Did see them, but you have to remember this is high school football there is no instant replay. I would be upset to, but what irks me is when CS goes to or wins state there seems to be no media respect. These boys deserve respect, even though Wichita pictures us a HIC town.
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OWLS says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:51 am
I do agree with you. The cpl is a hard legue and we desirve more credit. But you gotta remember that it takes a good 30mins to get from Wichita to gp, probably longer to Conway , why come 30+mind when they could cover bishop carrol or someone.
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sbcoach says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:42 am
officials are human, they make mistakes. it’s part of the game. you either learn to shut up and deal with it, or you make a fool of yourself and get kicked out. I hear Derby’s coach got the boot today, would like to know what that was about.
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CPL fan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:48 am
Turnovers and penalties cost GP this game. GP ran out of bullets shooting themselves in the foot. Conway made some plays when they needed to, and were for the most part mistake free, and still only won by 6 points. However the officials played a big role in this game. How can a flag happy crew that officiated this game miss a blatant block in the back 6 feet in front of him, reulting in a TD instead of a possible tackle and not throw a flag. And then to miss an obvious TD by #54. Both these teams worked very hard coming into this game, the fans were excited and supportive, but the officiating crew took alot of the allure away from the fans and the players by doing a subpar job. Fans and players from any team would be upset and this crew should be ashamed of themselves for their disgraceful performance. Missed calls such as these have a huge effect on a close hard fought game.
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CPL fan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:21 am
sbcoach, you are right, everyone makes mistakes, but I also know there are officiating crews out there who take great pride in doing an outstanding job. But I also know there are crews that don’t put in the time and are consistently poor officials. I know two officials that do high school and small college games and they both work hard to be good at what they do. One of these gentleman told me once, that if these kids and coaches dedicate the time and work to be the best, why shouldn’t the officials.
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Panthers44 says:
October 17th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Derby coach Brandon Clark got ejected from the game for protecting his player. I’m not going to say that the ejection wasn’t justified, but you can’t blame Clark for being upset. On one of Derby’s first offensive plays, Tyler Harrison threw a pass to Hedgepeth which was batted down by Joseph Randle. The corner continued over to blindside hedgepeth after the ball was dead. I respect Clark for trying to protect his players, but he probably could have handled the situation better
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r an r says:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Owls, Cardinals,
Your spelling is horrible….I am glad this was a football game and not a spelling bee. Wow.
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cardinalfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:32 am
I was at the game and watched the video clips. There were calls for both sides that were questionable. There were some ball placements that should have been 1st downs and weren’t. The simple fact is both teams played well. GP’s biggest problem was themselves. GP tackled several times around the head and was off sides several times. It was obvious and can’t be blamed on the officials. There were times when GP should have scored and didn’t. Don’t take anything away from an awesome team, Conway Springs, because you are mad that you lost. Someone had to lose. Conway played well, took advantage of GP’s fumbles and they deserve respect for a hard fought victory.
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Lushous Lou says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:18 am
i agree 100% pan. pretty bad no call but to kick the coach out for trying to protect a player is just sad in my mind
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jb says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:19 am
OOPS, You can whine about the officiating, but it went both ways, all I heard last week was about GP powerful running game, and how good their defense was and how One dimesional Conway Springs is…On the Running Game I beleive Brill had more rushing yards then the entire GP running Game, on the Defense I refer back to Brill and the rest of the Conway backs, and as far as One dimesional goes, they shoved it down your throats all night, if you can’t stop it why change it, that offensive line for Conway was the difference they were winning the battle up front…DEFENSE I beleive 3-4 Goal line stands will prove your defense…Enough said GREAT GAME way to go CARDINALS AWESOME…
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Hinds57 says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Exciting game last night. I really thought GP would win it, but congratulations to Conway on the victory. The outcome sure makes things rougher for GP going into the playoffs, and a little easier for Conway.
Which area games will be the ones to watch this coming Friday?
Help me out.
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AFAN says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Conway will not go far in the playoffs. Gp should have won last night but shot themselvs in the foot too many times. One dimesional? Yes very one dimesional…The stopped the run…wo hoo… once that new Qb went in for GP they started lighting it up through the air….too bad that last one got picked. If he leads that WR its a TD. Totally diffrerent game.
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Obssesed says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:07 am
In regards to AC over Mulvane I believe anybody could beat Mulvane now. They seem to have gotten worse as the year progresses compliments of the plays being called. Last night was the worst play calling I have ever seen in my entire life.
The plays were comparable to Kingmans no punting strategy.
I could not believe it.
There were probably at least 7 passes to the end zone to the same corner in double coverage. AC knew exactly what Mulvane was going to do before they even knew it.
Heres a couple for you, Lets do an onside kick on the opening KO, they won’t expect that, Lets go the the End Zone on Fourth and 2 from the Jag 40 to the same corner we’ve been beaten on all night “Just get the first down, forget the heroics” . And what happened on a third and 37 ?
I think that someone has not realized that Tyler Springer and Jordan Gosch are no longer playing .
There were probably at least 7 passes to the end zone to the same corner in double coverage.
Mulvane looked pretty good playing GB in the opener (they did have 11 starters out though) just good FB no hair brained heroic plays.
Did anyone else see or hear of this FIASCO ?
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Run n gun says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Ok.. I give a loadif credit I gp. Thy found a way to make a come back when their starting qb left the game due to injuries. They showed ally if heart last night and I wouldn’t be surprised if gp gets Conway the next time around. That’s if they make it to sub state.
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Eve says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Afan, I agree . Conway has no pass defense, which is the reason gp ran the ball only 2 times.I can see gp getting better from this and making it far in the playoffs.
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Eve says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:49 am
My last comment.. Only twice in the second half
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yougo says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Time for a change at Goddard. Offense and defense both look terrible last night and then no stats in the paper today. Looks like an 0fer season.
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cards says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:21 am
where did gp recruit there back up qb from??? u always blame conway for recruiting my god. owls will lose to collegiate first game of the playoffs 55-7 they suck
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wise old owl says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:22 am
great game last night… wow sounds like andale is back
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BigKansas says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:30 am
The refs at the Derby vs. Southeast game are the MOST incompetent individuals I have seen in a game. The calls are unnecessary and some of them were wrong calls. SE had the worst calls and penalties! The refs were a bunch of losers! Too bad we don’t have instant replay, cuz Derby would not have won this game.
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FBCATFAN says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Obsessed-I agree 100% with your post. That was the WORST play calling I have ever seen. The middle of the field was wide open, our backs were able to run the ball and get 4-5 yards on each play so why exactly did we continue to throw the ball to the corner? The QB was rushed all night and in turn made some bad choices. Does Mulvane ever want to be a powerhouse program?? How many more years will go on before some big changes are made?
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kansas-sports says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Trinity Academy is a good team, they played Rose Hill to a 0-0 half and 2nd half played good just made some crucial mistakes that caused them the game, if they cut those mistakes down they will make it to the playoffs… they have played 3 of the top teams in the state(Garden Plain, Conway Spring, Rose Hill), so they will be prepared and know whats coming in the last 2 district games
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anonymous says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:42 am
bigkansas- you must have not been watching the same game the rest of us were watching. the only thing southeast needs to do is become better actors. if you expect to get a pass interference call you either need to act better or be interferred with. the refs were correct in throwing out coach clark so dont say it was one sided. if we would have had instant replay we would have seen alot more infractions from southeast.
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Panthers44 says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Southeast’s entire offensive line was just tackling the Derby d-line throughout the game, they threw the flag one time. So BigKansas, i do think they should have had instant replay, because then Southeast wouldn’t have even got their whopping 60 yards rushing.
Can you sense my sarcasm? I think this Derby defense deserves a ton of credit. They are 180 across on the D-line and still held the best back in the state to 50 yards on the ground. Not to mention they have been extremely tough in the redzone, including 2 goal line stands so far this year and had Plowden not made an amazing play to pitch the ball to Randle as he was falling down, derby would have had another.
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Owls says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Cards ..
We did recruit him. He is the jv q. We recruit nobody. U did get bird last year, Aaron tomlinson has been here fir 3 years.
Conway will not win state this year.
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Lushous Lou says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
yeah refs were bad. but you guys still would have lost no matter the calls. derby’s D stood strong last night.
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Football Fan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I’ve listened to you 2 argue (CS & GP) and it seems GP is a low class winner and a “No” class loser. Both regroup and get ready for the next game. You both have a lot of games before will meet again.
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KSFOOTBALL says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
BIgKansas i agree those officials had a poor night but dont get confused Derbys D was in control the entire game begining to end.
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KSFOOTBALL says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
On Clark getting tossed i didnt see anything different than he does does every game. Im not sure if it was personal or what but those 2 flags flew out real quick bang bang. I had a close perfect view and i didnt see anything he did that deserved being tossed for but even officials have bad days .
On the play in question the hit was clearly late in the open field and right in front of the official . It was a play that a flag must be thrown on so nobody should be surprised by Clarks reaction.
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You know says:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Conway has no pass defense.
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You know says:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Which is why when our starting left the game due to Injury, the backup did what he had to do. I would of been crappin my pants if someone told me to win them the game( as a backup)
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ILIKEFOOTBALL says:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I watched the game and was amazed of the lack of discipline in GP, after showing all year how they execute…Don’t blame the officials, if GP does what they do, this game isn’t within 21 pts. But, Conway had allot to say about that. They were obviously the better team this night. Bottom line!
The backup QB Tomlinson was able to rally the team, and give them a chace at a win, from what i saw, he needs to be the starter. If he steps into that 40 yard pass, we are all talking about him as the hero for decades to come! Brill showed why he is considered the stud in this conference. GP’s receiver #1 is a Beast. Way to go for all three!
I think GP wins the rematch, if GP can get it together, and get by medicine lodge and Collegiate.
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BigKansas says:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
They didn’t throw the flag ONE time…..it was several unneccessary calls if you pay attention. Panther44,please watch the game again…Derby score 3 points in the 2H, please! SE scored 6 points, too bad the snap didn’t go well. With less then 4 minutes left, SE had the ball, the play clock was ticking even when they barely got up from the previous play. They had 2 delay of game penalty which was unncessary, because everytime when Derby had the ball, the refs took their time. So please, don’t tell me Derby wasn’t favor….There was calls on both sides when the refs didn’t call (obvious).
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softball fan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I was hoping GP would of won because they have a coach with class. I’m sorry to say, some of the posts here lack class and Coach Puetz does not appreciate them. Suck it up and win the next battle. Good luck.
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acac says:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
The top rusher in the state last night was from Ac and they skipped him on the top performers for rushing yards
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football junkie says:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Goddard looked terrible against dodge city
they neverlook prepared during the games. Surely goddard’s coaching staff is putting them into proper preparation to win these games. Something is not getting done. Offensively they are doinwhat they can get. Defensively still things are very in consistent. Whether a change happens in the staff or something. But things need to start happening. its awful to watch
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Salty says:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Derby didn’t hold Josh Smith to 50 yards rushing. Isn’t he the best back in the state? LOL! I don’t if I would call Randle the best back in the state. He seems to be awfully overrated this year. I am just saying.
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cardfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
haven’t heard from birdman lately
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Lushous Lou says:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
haha trust me bigkansas panther44 was watchin the game i was there. and salty your right on the randle thing he’s gonna be a good d-back at the next level though. my vote goes to robinson from nw. he’s pretty dang good
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KSFOOTBALL says:
October 17th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Salty SE,s (which i thought preseason would be really good) was horrible so the SmithvRandle debate is impossible to determine by numbers Vs Derbys D.
Big Ks you need to look at your coaching staff on the delay of game calls. We have gotten a few this season but we run the clock down inside 5seconds routinely and get the snap off so dont try to turn that into the officials problem. SE is the worst coached team i have watched this season and if i had a kid on his way or attending that program i would have the relator on the phone real quick!!!
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FBalllfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
well if randle had the o line and coaching staff that Josh Smith has id say he clould run though any defence the same way huch does. and i agree that the oficiating was bad in the derby SE game but i would like say it was bad on both sided there was so many missed calls on both sides but so many penalties that shouldnt had been called it just didnt make sence to me. It doesnt matter now the games over derby won. Id like to see a remach of this game during state.
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Justathought says:
October 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I put a few posts on this site, but will chill after this one. i went to CS/GP and was impressed with the rough and tumble approach to football that I was able to see. Too many penalties on both sides. CS looked more poised to open the game but GP stormed back with that HUGE QB they have. Not sure how long the starter is out for, but I’m thinking GP will be just fine.
Brill was amazing as always. I thought GP would be able to bottle him up, but I was wrong. Kudos to him, and that line. I was right about GP’s receiver, what a stud. He was open all night, no matter who they put on him, big players show up to big games.
I’m looking forward to the rematch. Way to go CS…
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jb says:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Conway Springs , will Roll through the playoffs, better coaching, better strength and conditioning in the off-season will prevail…
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GoBigRed says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Come on now jb…lets grow up a bit and if you are truly a CS fan lets please show the kind of class the coaches would want. Cards know how hard the road to Hutch is this year……no one thinks we will roll through playoffs, that said I think we can do it but it will be a dogfight! Great game last night….still have a headache from screaming!
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cardfan says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
ok tired of all the bs, conway led the entire game. Nice headlines though. Surely everyone has looked at the stats before they talk, meaning those one sided penalties! Its too bad that GP fans cannot accept the fact that they lost. Maby in the future the Cpl will be able to invest in instant replay so Catch it Kansas doesn’t have to show a one sided veiw.
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KSFOOTBALL says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
FBallllfan a “rematch” lol this game was nowhere near as close as the score indicated so why in the world would you want a rematch. I think people see what they want but if by some chance they play again it will porbably be very ugly. Derbys D is the real deal so be happy with the 12 points that you did get.
BigKs just wacthed the game again and the 2 “close” PI calls were followed immediately but 2 turnovers so actually SE came out ahead in field postion on both situations. like i told fballllfan just be glad its wasnt a beat down.
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Redrage says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Same old song and dance- GP loses they were cheated- Conway wins and it was luck. Those boys on both teams played there hearts out last night and there was plenty of penalties both ways. What if GP was given the touchdown??? What if Conway didn’t get the roughing the passer call and kept the interception??? All the pregame talk was GP has seen that sorry single wing offense there whole life and they will shut Brill down. Did NOT happen. If the media darlings were as good as everybody wants to think they are then one call should not decide the outcome of that game! What was the excuse last year at substate??? Oh thats right your stud was hurt. Come on owl fans man up and accept your loss and prepare for the next game!
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Owls says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Ok cards… Love the replay idea.
We had no excuse, our kids lost heart. Those who “gave up” ate not out for football this year.
And better coaching? Are you seious?? Re only thing differnt is the guys calling in the plays!! He runs the same stupid trick offense and defense.
FYI a defenceive cordinator should decide what defense to run. Not just relay the message every down from re head coach to the players. Or else they wouldn’t have all of those coaches on the sidelines!!
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Gp says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Ok big red.
What was your excuse to Cheney last year? And 5 outa the last 7 meetings?
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GoBigRed says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Don’t remember giving excuses, we lost plain and simple but we accepted the loss and concentrated on the next game. You might want to try it it worked out well for us. ;)
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CS says:
October 18th, 2009 at 12:08 am
FYI the so called stupid trick offense and defense has won 6 state titles. As for excuses I don’t recall anyone whining about the loss to cheney LAST YEAR nor the loss to GP. What I remember is how CS got better as the season went on and won state. GP pretty much went down hill and got blown out at the substate game. We’ll have to wait and see how it goes this year.
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Gp says:
October 18th, 2009 at 12:59 am
Yes it has won you state. But the new coach doesn’t get credit for walking in and using the same stuff as years before.
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KSFOOTBALL says:
October 18th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Does anyone ever get beat anymore ? It seems every week all we see/hear is excuses,crying and whining! ( I deleted the rest of this but i think you get my point. )
Most officials do a quality job and still get hammered by CLUELESS fans so when there is a case of an official not doing his job noone listens even if there is a case to be made. Dont get me wrong there are some that no busniess ever being on a field but since WE b!tch about it all of them so much the horrible/corrupt ones get a pass.
I have watched youth games over the past several years where officials were clearly in the pocket of a coach and its sickning to see but with the “fan” questioning calls in every game it gets swept under the rug.
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Viewfromstands says:
October 18th, 2009 at 1:59 am
Ok conway fans and garden plain fans relax. Both teams can learn from this game. Gp not so many penalties and convert in the red zone. Cs penalties and learn to defend the pass please. God help u guys in the playoffs when u play a passing team. Because if that backup qb for gp picked you guys apart, than what will a starter do to you? Good luck to both teams in the playoffs. Look foward to a rematch.
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BobChi says:
October 18th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Exactly, KSFOOTBALL. Whining about the officials is for losers. How often do you see winners whining? It’s always US that got robbed. Sure, they make mistakes in the course of hundreds of decisions during a game, but playing through any such mistakes is part of what makes a winner.
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Redrage says:
October 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
GP fans you lost get over it! Enough of the excuses. If you knew before the game how awful Conways pass defense then why did you try to run the ball the whole first half? Why all the comments about Conways offense? Let me guess the offense we run is somehow illegal since your boys cannot defend it. Your boys did not execute and made mental mistakes which cost you the game end of story! Maybe KWCH and catch it kansas should just anounce GP the state champions and buy all the fans and players rings this year since you are by far the best team in the state. Champions perform in the big game and figure out ways to win. 6 titles in 10yrs speaks for itself. Go BIG RED!!!
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out of the loop says:
October 18th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I agree, fans seem to argue every call, and then when there truely are bad calls, they go unnoticed. Is there any means to hold officials accountable for their actions? Most officials do a good job, and you have accept a few bad calls. It’s a challenge to watch every player on the field. They can’t be perfect, but at least for high school football, there should be some means to protest a trend of consistant bad calls in a game. Not to change the game, but to weed out bad officials.
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jb says:
October 18th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
gp He is not a new coach been there 11 seasons, (go big red) I appreciate your support, but (grow up)??? I am entitled to MY beleif right or wrong…I will stop now…
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anonymous says:
October 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
those who blame the officials in the loss of a game really are looking for excuses for why they lost!. there were calls missed on both sides, however, it did not determine the outcome of the game. the better team won.
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CPL fan says:
October 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Some comments and questions after some emotion has subsided.
Video shows GP scored but was not called a TD. A tough pill for anyone to swallow. We don’t know if it would have made a difference, but I guarantee if GP would have ran it into the endzone it would have been a no brainer. Props to CS for making it a close call.
GP missed several opportunities to take control of this game, but didn’t. Some were their fault, some were good defense by CS. Very hard fought battle by both teams. I’m not sure either is a state contender, but time will tell. GP will regroup and hopefully learn from their mistakes.
CS fans, Brill is a good athlete, but I didn’t see him doing everything on his own. The O line needs to be patted on the back every once in a while for some darn good blocking.
GP knows how to defend the single wing, they’ve done it before, but if a defense doesn’t execute better than an offense, or vice versa, we all know what happens.
After all the missed opportunities, blown calls, penalties, coaching decisions, and whatever else you want to throw in, all that matters is what the scoreboard says when the clock runs down. CS won.
The backup quarterback was not recruited. (get real) Fact of the matter is he’s the stepbrother of the reciever who caught the first TD pass. Pretty cool for the family.
Question, If all plays out similar to last year, won’t CS have the tougher road in the playoffs ie Scott City, Hutch Trinity, etc? I’m not sure that will provide an opportunity to “roll through the playoffs”
Finally, cards predicts GP will lose 55-7 to Collegiate in the playoffs because GP sucks. Since CS only beat a sucky GP team by 6, how do think CS will rate against a passing machine like Collegiate if they meet in the playoffs?
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Obssesed says:
October 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
FBCATFAN: I think we need to look in the direction of the play caller. Now who might that be? Take a look at Andale, a different group of kids comes in every year, but they are consistently good.
What does that tell you? The only one who doesn’t leave is the Coach. I think someone thinks Jordan and Springer are still playing.
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FootballFan12 says:
October 18th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I was at the game as an individual looking for a good game. What I saw was two well coached young men fighting for every inch. It was a great game for me to take in.
All officials miss calls from time to time but in my opinion what needed to be called was called. The goalline play is one tough one after looking at the video. One thing that nobody seems to remember or mention is that GP did have a shot to score again after the call was ruled short. Catch it KS makes it sound like the clock ran out after that play. A GP player was not lined up right from the 1 yrd line and they still got a snap off from the 6. Not many people are mentioning that aspect.
Each team had a number of mistakes most likely due to the high pressure and intensity of the game. I watch alot of high school football and am certain that both these teams will be in it at the end. Both towns should be proud of their teams. When these teams play their rematch I will be sure to take the drive once again.
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CWY RED #1 says:
October 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
CPL fan: Great post to tone down the rhetoric coming from both teams. I think We saw what will eventually be a great matchup in the substate game, as long as both teams play to their potential. I think what we all can agree on is that BOTH team did not perform up to their expectations. When we went up 19-0, all of us thought we would easily win this one. Boy, we underestimated the passion and desire that GP has. All of us agreed that we dodged a bullet when GP didn’t start that horse of a QB#7. I wondering why we haven’t seen him in past games. Did i hear it right on the news that they are related somehow? Brill is a stud, been getting it done for three years. GP’s Receiver #1 was much better than we thought too. I can’t wait to see the next match-up.
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JMO says:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:54 am
We all know in 3a there aren’t very many cornerbacks that have to defend against a good passing game.(Especially in the CPL) Because most teams concentrate on running the football and don’t have to pass. GP has a very good passing QB but if you were at the game CS never got pressure on him, he had what seemed like an eternity to throw it. I don’t know if CS players were getting tired or if GP’s linemen are better at defending a pass rush. A team like Collegiate is very good at passing the ball but I don’t think they have much of a running game. If GP can get to thier QB they should be able to disrupt thier timing and make them do what they do not do best. I believe CS did this last year even though thier corners aren’t the best at defending and won.
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CS says:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:07 am
I don’t think CS or GP will roll through the playoffs. I believe GP will be tested with Collegiate. If they get past them they should have it fairly easy until substate. I don’t think Cs will have a problem until Scott City, they are gonna be tough especially after what happened last year against GP. If CS and GP do what they do best (WIN) then it will be a great substate game.
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justsforkicks says:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:47 am
CS and GP…wish the owls could have pulled it out, but oh well. Now what I want is for the CPL to take care of playoff business so we can see a rematch at substate. Best of luck to GP and CS (at least until substate for CS if against GP). Bring the title back to the CPL…again.
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CWY RED #1 says:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Good to see the posts here get a bit more in tune with some civility. I was able to watch the game tape and what it seemed to me the GP line did a good job at buying the QB some time, but he also had good pocket awareness. he sidestepped out blitzer like he knew it was coming, what surprised me about him, is that this is the biggest game of the year, and he stayed poised and lit us up. Enough about him. WHAT ABOUT BRILL…. I’m glad we have him……
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Yesman says:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
The backup QB Aaron Tomlinson and the wide receiver Blake Withrow are indeed stepbrothers looks like a nice connection right!?
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Spartan says:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
From reading this it’s quite obvious we Spartans are destined for state if garden plain sucks and Conway can’t defend one receiver and a backup then we will throw it all over both of you
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CS Rocks says:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Well, I hope you overlook GP. if you happen to make it past them, we will run it down your throats, Just like last year. their wide reciever is probably one of the best in the state, and from what I hear, the back-up QB could be their starter if he could run the wishbone a bit better. did you see the 55 yard pass that hit their guy perfectly in stride? No matter, I thinkg the CPL is too strong again this year., Our guys are too strong for most teams to handle, and brill will get an easy 150-200 yards a game….Conway will win it all again. Championship # 7 Baby….
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LookWest says:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I hope you guys don’t forget to look to the real west in Kansas not just central Kansas cuz Scott City once again has a pretty good team
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what? says:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
I dont see what was so special about what that back-up QB did? All he did was stand there and throw it as far as he could. The other quarterback could have done the samething but they never called any passes like that when he was in. So the back up did a nice job but i dont see why he is being praised so much. Anyone could have went out there and threw the ball as far as they can to that receiver he is bound to catch it
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CSHS says:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Personally, I don’t see what Bugner did that was so great when he was in, hence the reason i think he was pulled.. that back-up did his best and out played the starter
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CPL says:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
well bugner had to leave to get stitches on his hand when the bleeding would not stop after a cheap roughing the passer shot was taken on him. From what i saw bugner just ran the plays that were called its not like he has control over what they run.
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Birdman says:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
The Birdman cometh. Well it looks like my old team can win a regular season game/ district game big whoop! We lost to Cheney and GP last year it doesn’t matter two teams still make it. We sucked until the coaches woke up and realized if they gave me the ball 30 times a game we would win.
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JAG says:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:50 am
The hit bugner took was not a cheap shot nor a late hit, it was called because he led with his head. I don’t think we should get into a discussion about cheap shots or dirty play because GP will probly get the trophy for that.
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oldstyle says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Birdman: I can see why you weren’t liked by your former teamates! What a ego! Grow up!
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Justforkicks says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:28 am
OMG, here we go again. Just when the fire is burning out on the officiating, now we are going down the cheap & dirty path. Game is over, let it go, get ready for the next game, hope for a rematch. QB took a big hit and in the process got his hand cut open, you could tell he wanted back in, but couldn’t stop bleeding(I heard 15 stitches). Same play a “roughing the passer” was called…it happens. The cut happened, doubt he was shanked. lol. If anyone knows anything about CS and GP, they play hard and hit hard, real hard…cheap & dirty, not so much as just flat hardnosed football. If you don’t like it, don’t play a contact game. LOL, really wanted to say “play soccer”, but then we’d get the soccer fanatics riled up and none of us want them hear…unless they want to kick for us! Personally, I want CS to win out for a rematch…I want GP to win out because I am a fan…and I would even say CS wants GP to win out because we all like to see WCS lose…CPL rules. ;-)
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Justforkicks says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:32 am
oops, wrong “hear” should be “here”. Had to correct before being chastized for wrong word by the intellectuals on HERE. ;-)
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CPL fan says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:51 am
JAG, You don’t want to get in a discussion about cheap shots and dirty play, but then you throw in the GP comment. You might want to sit down and take a close look at some game film. There were hands to the face, cut blocks, blocks in the back, holding, etc etc on both sides. Take a good look at how many blocks in the back on GP’s DB’s. Look at some of the holding from BOTH lines. On at least one play a lineman has his hat pushed on top of his head with his chinstrap around his nose from hands to the facemask.
Sit down, watch a film and take count before you make BS statements like that.
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Wellington says:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
BUCOCATFAN…can you believe all of this whining about officials? I thought only Wellington fans did this on message boards…lol
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oldstyle says:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Whing about the officals after getting beat is not a way of building a winning tradition. All your doing is giving the players an excuse for getting beat. That teaches them that it is never there fault! Sorta like Democrats!
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3A Fan says:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Just for kicks: great posts.. I loved the shank comment. Like he was playing against wichita south or something… lmao….I was looking at the stats and noticed that GP turned the ball over 5 times and twice failed to convert inside the 10. that amazes me that the game was not a blow out. I’m thinking i would learn how to stop the pass if I were CS….How does a kid who never started a game rip the #1 team in 3A….alhough he did throw the interception at the end. Their wide receiver was wide open, if he makes that throw, then we are all talking about it………
I think CS win’s out to Sub, and so does GP.. Can’t wait to see it again
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Da Bear says:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
I would like to point out that bugner didnt get pulled from the game he got his hand cut open by a helmet and had to go get stitches for it. Gp didnt pass in the first half so for anyone to say the back up should be starting needs to look at bugners stats from the other games in the season. He can get the job done
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fanofmany says:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Bugner cannot pass…he is ok but not like the back up. He under throws his receivers most of the time and the only reason he has TD passes is because the WR’s make the plays…Kinda sounds like Bell and Carrol eh…. so don’t say Bugner can pass.
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Your a joke says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I know for a fact Bugner has the biggest arm on that team. He has had the best arm since his sophmore year when he could out throw anyone on the team. So maybe you shouldn’t base your statement off one game. Tomlinson didn’t do anything but throw it as far as he could or into the dirt and when he tried to put some touch on it he threw a pick about fifteen yards short.
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fanofmany says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Bugner has a weak arm…One game? I’ve been to all 7. His receivers bail him out and get the YAC for him. That pick was thrown off his back foot. If Bugner threw off his back foot maybe the linemen picks it off… ha. He is starting because Puetz is his uncle…family card? Yes just like the last two years. Who didnt score the first two quarters Bugner. Who almost came back, that back up Tomlin. Pathetic
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justforkicks says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Seriously? It’s not me…
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Gp says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Ok maybe we didn’t pass because we found a weakness?? I go and watch the practices once a week and I know if it came to clutch and to someone who can read the defense bugner would get it. And again the coach calls the plays not the qbs. If e wanted to pass it wasn’t up to him. And to be clear I would like to see you go and pass as far and onstride like he did I. The first 6 games. When they threw on average 4-6 passes a game. He had 2 or more perfect games throwing 100% on his passes. So take a seat and shut your mouth unless you can do better.
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Hooters says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Are you tellin me that an all league and all state quarterback in jake puetz started because Coach Puetz is his uncle?? man if there was someone under him that got screwed out of a starting job i would like to think that person woulda been all metro or something.. Puetz was obviously a leader his senior year, helped out by the experience given to him by his teammates the previous year..
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Hahaha says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Family card?! Wow. No the family card would be letting him not run sprints , etc.. But the starting job cause he is his nephew? Haha that comment made my day. He ovbiously CAN pass or he wouldn’t have started. PuetZ would go with the better player. And the be clear, he does not get out of sprints. I would know I practice against him on scout team everyday.
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justforkicks says:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Let me try that again…Seriously? That’s an ugly turn to call kids out by name and start questioning abilities (especially when one kid was shanked for the team!!lol). Jealous turds (likely an “adult” and probably a parent, not a player as they have more class). This direction is just wrong. Don’t take anything away from ANY of the kids. Please.
It was a great game to watch, someone had to lose. Refs always tork someone off, CS and GP always beat the crap outta each other and the state title generally comes home to the CPL!!!
Hey “fanofmany”, Bugner is not a nephew. At at best a second cousin…which would likely include half the town in that category. lol
I’d rather go back to debating kake and kwch highlights…
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Kwch says:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Yes I agree. The film on the goalline shows proof gp scored but I’m not gonna get into that.
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Viewfromstands says:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
everyone who is arguing about these gp quarterbacks should realize both are good.. just let it go.. one is starting one is not.. the backup will have his shot next year.. i never would of thought pitts would call all those pass plays against conway..with his backup..at first i thought well conway sealed the deal, but that kid did pretty damn good..and for the starter 12, im sure he wouldve been in the same situation..if gp has anything, they have depth… and i saw that last friday night…
and im sure its you gp people arguing about it so listen to me..
you guys have a good starter and a good backup..
keyword of the night DEPTH…
SO CALM DOWN..
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Da Bear says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Im just sticking up for the fact that bugner is a good qb.
fanofmany, i agree with justforkicks, you shouldnt be calling out certain players.
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passion says:
October 21st, 2009 at 6:41 am
Funny thing reading all these posts…. I know both players and go to school with them, both are very respectful of the other and only care about one thing…winning. they both support the coach. I think we all know that we are lucky to have them both. I don’t think puetz plays the family card, he just wants to win. and Bugner has been in the program for 5 years, so he deserves the chance to lead the team. Tomlinson will do it next year, and you guys can write about how some poor underclassman is getting screwed because puetz is only playing tomlinson because it’s his 23rd cousin twice removed. Get over it.
Aaron did very well on Friday and did not just throw the ball as far as he could, if he did, noone could catch it….. He was very upset after throwing the interception, but we wouldn’t have been in the game without him. and yes i am a girl..lol
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